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March 1st, 2007

Full Press Release on Geoff Hammond

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 1, 2007

Geoffrey A. Hammond recommended as president-elect
Of North American Mission Board, SBC

Full board of Trustees to vote at Special Called March 20-21 meeting

ALPHARETTA, GA.—The President Search Committee of the North American Mission Board trustees today recommended that Dr. Geoffrey A. Hammond become the agency’s next president. Hammond is Senior Associate Director of the Southern Baptist Conservatives of Virginia.

NAMB’s full board of trustees will vote on the recommendation at a March 20-21 special called meeting in Alpharetta. If approved, Hammond would become NAMB’s president-elect, officially beginning his duties at the May 8-9 Board meeting and starting full-time on May 22, according to committee chairman Greg Faulls.

“Dr. Hammond has proven himself to be a successful leader, strategist, and practitioner in church planting missions and evangelism throughout his ministry career,” Faulls said. “NAMB is a Missions agency in need of a strong leader with the mind of a missiologist and with a vision to strategically mobilize an army of missionaries who will spread the gospel and plant churches throughout an ethnically diverse North America.”

Hammond, 49, was born in Nigeria to missionary parents serving with the Foreign Mission Board, SBC. He earned the equivalent of a Business Degree in Administration in Zimbabwe, passing the final examination of the Chartered Institute of Secretaries and Administrators (UK). He is a graduate of Spurgeon’s Seminary in London, England, as well as earning the Doctor of Ministry Degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, majoring in Evangelism and Missions.

He has served throughout his career as pastor, church planter, staff member of mega-churches, IMB missionary to Brazil, seminary professor, director of missions, NAMB appointed missionary, church planting strategist, and for the past five years as a Senior Associate State Executive. “Hammond understands missions at every level. He has proven skills and experience planting churches and strategically directing church planting in associations and a state convention. He is gifted in leadership and adept in the areas of business administration. He is bilingual and has a grasp of the complexity and diversity of the harvest field and clearly understands the importance and dynamics of NAMB’s relationships with her state partners,” said Faulls. “In addition he is fully supportive of the Baptist Faith and Message 2000.”

Hammond and his wife, Deborah, have two sons: Timothy and Nicholas.

“Our president search committee has been thorough and prayerful in seeking God’s man for NAMB,” said Bill Curtis, Chairman of the Board. “I can say with confidence that the search committee has worked diligently on the behalf of Southern Baptists and the Board throughout this process, and they look forward to bringing a report on the journey and to presenting Dr. Geoff Hammond at the March Board meeting.”

Curtis also said, “I wish to express my gratitude to every member of the NAMB staff. During the past year I have observed our wonderful staff rise to every challenge with faith and cooperation. As we prepare to move into a new phase of NAMB’s history, I am confident that the staff and our committed missionaries will continue to rise as they work together in advancing evangelism, church planting, and the strengthening of churches throughout North America.”

“As a third generation missionary, my heartbeat has always been reaching people with the Gospel no matter where they live,” said Hammond. “I believe the North American Mission Board is the greatest missionary agency for reaching North America for Christ and it is the greatest honor of my life to be nominated for this position.”

The recommendation of Hammond follows an intense ten-month search that began with the committee’s commitment to continually pray, follow a thorough, patient process, and resist outside political maneuvers. “We determined what we were going to do was seek God’s man. There was never a predetermined person. We were faithful to follow our process and allow God to reveal His choice,” Faulls said. “We considered a wide variety of candidates from all corners of Southern Baptist life: pastors, seminary professors, state executives, missionaries, evangelists, as well as staff members of denominational agencies.”

NAMB, an entity of the Southern Baptist Convention, is led by a 60-member board of trustees. Last April 2006, after the resignation of former president Dr. Bob Reccord, then board chairman Barry Holcomb appointed a nine-member search committee: Chairman Greg Faulls (KY), Vice-Chairman David Crump (OK), Dennis Culbreth (VA), Ellie Ficken (AL), Terry Fox (KA), Barbara McCormick (SC), Michael Palmer (ID), Ryan Palmer (MD), and Jeff Shirley (TX).

NAMB is the largest Missions Agency commissioned to reach North America. In partnership with State Conventions the agency appoints over 5,000 missionaries throughout the United States and Canada for the primary purpose of evangelization and church planting. Southern Baptists support the work of NAMB primarily through Cooperative Program giving and the Annie Armstrong Easter Offering.

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76 Responses to “Full Press Release on Geoff Hammond”

  1. micah says:

    I love it that you’ve got this posted before Baptist Press or even NAMB has it available on their site. You are my hero, Marty! :-)

  2. Marty Duren says:

    Micah-
    BP will no doubt do a full story complete with comments from the President-elect, which of course I have not.

    I’m sure not everyone shares your enthusiasm, but that’s ok; I sure appreciate it!

    :^)

  3. Ex Law Man says:

    You go Marty!

    You the man!

    Where is Jimmy Hoffa buried?

  4. Kevin Bussey says:

    Welcome Geoff!

    Is he related to Thomas Hammond? Man, that would be a real hoot! :)

  5. Marty Duren says:

    Ex Law-
    Bruce Nolan already found Jimmy Hoffa.

    Travis-
    Is it a necessity for a person to have pastored a church “by himself” to be effective at leading a church planting emphasis? Seems he did pretty well up your way, unless I’m missing something.

    Kevin-
    No. You’ll have to save your hooting.

    I did notice that Geoff Hammond is bi-lingual. Must be English and American.

  6. micah says:

    Travis-

    Good question about reformed theology. I’d like to hear his answer too. I think I know the answer after discussing it with people who know him, but I’d certainly like to hear it from him.

    If it’s any indication he did graduate from Spurgeon College.

  7. Benjamin S. Cole says:

    In Honor of Roger Moran:

    Geoffrey Hammond’s last name is Hammond.

    Hammond is the name of a town in Indiana.

    Hammond, Indiana has a First Baptist church.

    First Baptist of Hammond is an Independent Baptist Church.

    The former pastor of FBC Hammond is Jack Hyles.

    Jack Hyles had a well-known affair with his secretary.

    This kind of moral compromise cannot be tolerated among Southern Baptists.

    Thank you, Roger, for helping us to see these connections.

  8. cb scott says:

    Travis,

    He is not LEADING thousands of pastors. He is going to be the”point man” for thousands of pastors in church planting. He has proven he can do that in Virginia.

    Dance, Travis, Dance.

    cb

  9. Travis Hilton says:

    CB,

    Is he the point man for everybody?

  10. Marty Duren says:

    Ben-
    Crackin’ me up, dude.

    Travis-
    Perhaps if you can give me what you understand Geoff’s job description to be, we can see if that lines up with reality and then I’ll be better prepared to answer those questions.

  11. Travis Hilton says:

    Micah,

    Spurgeon College is no longer affiliated with the Metropolitan Tabernacle and is now connected with the Baptist Union of Great Britain, which censored Spurgeon. It longer shares his theology.

  12. Travis Hilton says:

    Correction: My last sentence should read, “It NO longer shares his theology.”

  13. cb scott says:

    Travis,

    NO. He will only be the point man for those of us that want to see churches planted in North America. For those that really do not care if North Americans go to Hell he will be of little help.

    It is evident that not all pastors in North America are interested in lost souls even in their own backyards, much less on the whole continent.

    So, no, he will not be “point man” for everybody. He will only be point man for those that understand the true mission of NAMB.

    Are any of us the point man for everyone in our local churches? No,we are point man only for those that understand the mission of the local church.

    Frankly, a good Sunday School Director can be a Point man for the local church in reaching the lost in their community. Lets just consider Hammond as the Sunday School Director of all North America with the mission of confronting the lost with the gospel of Christ.

    Now, Start Dancing and praying:-)

    cb

  14. Travis Hilton says:

    CB,

    You’re missing the point. You’re mentioning all the things that a lot of people want to see happen in North America.

    A lot of us “really do care” about a lot of things. We “really do care” about the lost that are on their road to Hell, but we also “really do care” about planting strong,effective churches. Would you say that it may be helpful for a person leading such an organization to have some “hands-on” experience? I’m not saying that it is an absolute, by would it not be helpful in the task of starting a church?

    I think you should know this since you yourself have started one.

  15. cb scott says:

    Travis,

    I am not missing the point. You are thinking of the wrong SBC entity.

    We are not calling this guy to teach Pastoral Ministry or Church Administration. Hey, we are not calling him to be a seminary president:-) We do need men with “REAL” experience as pastors in those positions. Being an Associate Pastor or a Christian School Headmaster just does not”cut it” in those positions. We are now suffering in those areas in SBC life for the “short-sightedness of seminary trustees.

    This is NAMB. We need a person that can develop effective methodology for planting churches in a post-modern culture. The guy has done that in Virginia, no less. Virginia has every possible culture known to North America dwelling within its borders.

    His “hands-on” experience is exactly what NAMB needs.

    Lets take it to Gate City, VA culture for an illustration:-)

    “Hook Hammond and Stetzer to a good strong plow and we can bust up new ground all over this country”:-)

    cb

  16. John D says:

    I wish not to be negative toward Dr. Hammond for fear of being incorrect concerning his involvement at the evolution of the sbcv. As a former resident of Virginia and as a SWBTS grad and a SBC loyalist my who life- the fight in virginia which led to the sbcv was the ugliest of all the convention fights. The sbcv DID NOT use Christian pricilples of love for “brother” in their quest to be “right.” Time will tell, but this cannot be seen as an “enlarging” of the tent for the sake of missions and the kingdom.

  17. Chris Bonts says:

    While I am interested to learn where Geoff stands on a host of issues, as a current Nehemiah church planter, I must admit that the language of “point man” in no way resembles the actual job of the President of NAMB.

    While he will have an impact on the overall policy and strategy for future church planting strategies, the “hands on experience” is not necessary. There are enough folks in NAMB (e.g. Stetzer) with experience that unworkable strategies will be addressed in house. What we need is a visionary that can lead the nuts and bolts guys in NAMB to get on the same page.

    He needs some leadership experience in the church to know what we are going through on the field, but I am under no delusion that his experience will directly impact me or my church plant. The person that does that the most is my field supervisor for the state convention - and I doubt Bob Reccord or Roy Fish ever knew who that person was :-).

    NAMB will never be able to plant churches effectively. That task falls on existing churches. What we need is someone that can point out the need for existing churches to get involved in the process. I am more interested in Geoff’s ability to communicate a workable vision than anything else.

    Let’s face it guys, once you get on the field in North America - you are largely on your own unless you have a strong working relationship with a sponsor church.

    Chris Bonts

  18. Bob Cleveland says:

    Our church started a new SBC plant in a nearby community about 15 years ago. The “point men” were my pastor, who led the charge, and yours truly, who started a new SS class for the folks who were interested in a church in that area. You can see the results at:

    http://www.riverchasebaptistchurch.org

    I am a Calvinist. My pastor is not. Did one of us do a bad thing? Should Dr. Hammond be upset with one of us, or have to explain how such a thing happened? Should I have been stopped?

    I hope his answer to the question about a Calvinist planting a church would be “Which Calvinist?”

  19. Paul Fries says:

    I for one think Geof Hammond is a great choice! I have met the man and found him to be a genuine Godly man and look forward to his leadership at NAMB.

  20. Paul Fries says:

    John D, just to clear up a point, Geof was not in VA when during the formation of the SBCV. He has only been in VA for 5 years.

  21. cb scott says:

    John D,

    Speaking as one of the dirtiest, ugliest fighters (with many regrets) in the “Virginia Wars” I think I can honestly say Geoff Hammond was not a Blood Warrior in that fight. He came later as part of a MASH unit to clean up the wounded and plant peace in a scorched ground.

    Chris,

    My concept of a Point Man is a visionary. I should have explained that in my first use of the term. Also, I think the Nehemiah Project needs some visitation if it is going to be truly effective in the future for church planting.

    Bob,

    You do know how to cut to the chase:-) Well said.

    cb

  22. Travis Hilton says:

    Name the man who made the following comment:

    “You cannot plant churches through expository preaching.”

  23. Mike Day says:

    Marty:
    I am IMPRESSED with your breaking this story! Are you a prophet, or just extraordinarily connected? If you are a prophet, is there anything I should know about the DOM in Memphis?
    Blessings,
    Better Listen (to those)Outpost Guys!

  24. irreverend fox says:

    MARTY FOR VP!!! MARTY FOR VP!!!

  25. Marty Duren says:

    Travis-
    Rick Warren? Andy Stanley? Bill Hybels? Ed, Jr?

    Mike-
    I’ll get with Carnac and let you know…

  26. irreverend fox says:

    Chris Bonts…you said:

    “NAMB will never be able to plant churches effectively. That task falls on existing churches. What we need is someone that can point out the need for existing churches to get involved in the process. I am more interested in Geoff’s ability to communicate a workable vision than anything else.”

    I say:

    AMEN! Right on my friend…right…on!

  27. Steve Clevenger says:

    >Name the man who made the following comment:

    >“You cannot plant churches through expository >preaching.”

    Travis,

    The man who made that statement was Geoff Hammond.

    Steve

  28. Chris Bonts says:

    Fox,
    I checked your profile but did not see an email link but I did see some cool commonalities. Where is Wadsworth, Ohio? I am in southern Indiana.

    Chris

  29. Chris Bonts says:

    By the way, we are planting a church and plan to plant many more through expository preaching.

    Chris

  30. bill p says:

    Travis,

    Do you think a man should not be NAMB president if it is his opinion that you cannot plant churches through expository preaching?

    As long as he doesn’t “force” church planters to abandon that approach, there should be no problem.

  31. cb scott says:

    Travis,

    If Geoff Hammond said that it is worthy of examination as to the context of the statement.

    Travis, you are a good pastor with a great education from a fine seminary.(SEBTS) Therefore, you know the context of a statement is very important. I believe expository preaching is the only real preaching.

    With that said, let me say you cannot plant a church on preaching alone. There must be hard work in “pounding the pavement” in visitation, spiritual maturity, real ministry, community involvement, and much, much praying. A guy really has to “melt” into the community to be an effective church planter. An attitude that will not tolerate defeat is also helpful.

    The person that gave me most of the information I have about Geoff Hammond is an exponent of expository preaching. He helped start the SBCV. He knows every person in the administration personally. He is considered as a leader in SBCV life.

    Why don’t you call Geoff Hammond and ask him about expository preaching. Call Doyle Chauncey and ask him about both expository preaching and Geoff Hammond’s relationship to it.

    cb

  32. Marty Duren says:

    CB-
    That question goes to Steve Clevenger as well. It’s also true that “you can’t grow an existing church through expository preaching” alone–especially of you are just talking about numerical growth.

  33. Travis Hilton says:

    bill p,

    If the president of NAMB made such a statement I would make a recommendation that he be removed immediately. Every church planter may not be expected to have such an approach, but if they choose to do so they should not be rejected from the fullest support possible. Any person who is responsible for heading an organization like NAMB should be able to recognize the benefits of having that kind of church planters on board and realize that you CAN plant churches preaching verse by verse through the scriptures. A vast array of churches with various worship styles ues this approach.

  34. cb scott says:

    Marty,

    You are TEN RING on that. That is one of the problems with some chapel sermons that seminary students are hearing. If you are going to be a real pastor toreal people there is far more to it than just preaching of any kind.

    It may be only my opinion, but I believe most church growth of any kind (numerical or otherwise) happens in the “street” of everyday life. I think some of you young guns call it “missional”:-)

    This is true for any real Kingdom Enterprise venture, new or ancient. Or, have I missed your point O Great Carnac?:-)

    cb

  35. Travis Hilton says:

    CB,

    I know what you and Marty are saying, but that was not the context in which this statement was made. He was saying that topical preaching is to be prefered to expository preaching. He told this to a man who was qualified and certified as a NAMB planter. This comment was not attached as I understand it to anything about the method to go about gathering people to start a church. I may take you up on your recommendation.

  36. cb scott says:

    Travis,

    You now need to make the call and clear this up.

    cb

  37. Marty Duren says:

    Travis-
    I concur with CB. If you have concerns, call Geoff Hammond and question him with everything that you is of a concern to you. This sounds like a make or break for you and it will not do to rely on 2nd and 3rd hand.

    I think he’s still in your state currently.

  38. micah says:

    Travis-

    It seems to me to be appropriate that you do make that call. I spoke today to a former church planter candidate in VA who had a similiar conversation with Dr. Hammond who told me that Hammond’s point (in their conversation) was that if all you plan to do is stand in the pulpit and preach expositorally, your church will fail. CB seems to be right about this one, at least according to this former CP candidate from Virginia.

  39. Marty Duren says:

    No piling on intended, Travis. Those two went up at the exact same time.

  40. cb scott says:

    Guys,

    I just spoke with a person that has his hand on the pulse of both the SBC and SBCV. He reminded me of something of which I do have firsthand knowledge.

    A few years ago the DCBC was “gutted” of finances. The DC Convention would have died a slow death. Geoff Hammond and the SBCV reached out to DC. New churches are growing there now.

    You will never know how happy I am to hear that testimony. Under the leadership of Geoff Hammond the SBCV draws over 3000 youth to evangelism events.

    To give you an idea of the greatness of that I can remember during the Virginia Wars we did not have hardly that many people attending the most heated BGAV meetings in Virginia Baptist history.

    Travis, make the call and clear this up. Otherwise, come on over to Marty’s house and join the dancin’ in the street and brush arbor prayer meeting and let the Devil take the hindmost with the argument about this other stuff.

    cb

  41. irreverend fox says:

    hey Chris…our web address is www.southsidechristianfellowship.com and my e-mail is asthedeer1@juno.com

    we’ve just started on our 2nd plant…2 plants at once…southside gathers for worship on sunday nights…so my DOM thought “hey…this gary guy is dumb enough to try two at once…let’s see if I can talk him into it…”

    one of our old time churches ran out of gas and so it closed…our association wants to get a new missional church planted in it…and I’m dumb enough to say yes…so the second plant is in Akron and I think it might end up being called Coram Deo…

    someone tell Geoff Hammond that I need about $50k for the second plant upfront…

  42. Travis Hilton says:

    micah & all,

    I agree with the recommendation to contact Dr. Hammond(again). If all it was about was a church planter who thought that “all he had to do” was preach expository messages I would not even give this a thought. But that was not the case. The person was told this because it was his method of preaching, period. He is a first hand witness who was told this among other things when he was being considered for support.

    I will attempt to make contact, but don’t expect to hear from me through the weekend. I have some other commitments that may not allow me to do so tomorrow.

    TBH

  43. Kevin Bussey says:

    Rather than find faults with Geoff, why don’t we pray for him and thank God that the search committee found the right man for the job.

    Give him a chance.

  44. Travis Hilton says:

    Kevin,

    I’ll only speak for myself here…I’m not trying to find faults in Geoff. I’m wanting to understand how he has come to find fault with others. I will also pray for him. Hopefully he will receive the message I have left him.

  45. Jim Millirons says:

    Conversation on expository preaching is interesting. Remember, guys we are in a mission field (and thank God we are going to be led by a passionate theologically sound missiologist) that requires that communication forms (based on biblical function) are indigenous expressions of the content of the preaching. Could it be that is why Jesus spoke with authority without three points and poem? He told stories and even sat down to do it (forgive him). You can not successfully plant a church without preaching!! However, the forms will be as different as the cultures!

  46. Geoff Baggett says:

    Jim,

    Thank you! Well said. Somebody needed to say it. This whole “expository preaching” bonanza/extravaganza was growing quite tiresome and a little silly. There are most definitely cultures where expository preaching would not work.

    Geoff’s point was obvious. If you think you can simply start preaching through the Bible and great numbers of people will show up to hear you, and in the process you will grow a great church, you are a bit delusional. There is infinitely more to planting churches than that. How does the old saying go? “People don’t care what you know until they know you care.”

    There are many, many ways to preach the Word faithfully without going one book of the Bible at a time.

    I don’t seem to recall Jesus or Paul preaching through the Old Testament.

    http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com

  47. peter says:

    My Brother Travis,

    I apologize for my tardiness to this conversation. I read this thread with humor turned to stun. You really were serious after all in your objections to Dr. Hammond. I thought you were joking at first. How gullible of me.

    Apparently the most forminable objection you offer is Dr. Hammond hardly sports enough experience you feel he should and that he does not particularly care for the expository preaching model. How that’s supposed to count against him in the NAMB role does not register, at least on my screen.

    Even more significant from my perspective, these subtle insinuations–coming from more than one sector in our convention I should say–that our Trustees are little more than incompetent morons who could not possibly know what we know or judge as good as we could judge or make good decisions like we could make good decisions somewhere, somehow has got to stop, if our SBC retains/gains health.

    I’m quite sure, were I to talk personnaly to Dr. Hammond, I could collect some fog to spray concerning whether he would fit NAMB. The fact is, it is not my call, nor yours nor anyone else’s. Rather it’s the Trustees.’ They need my support, not my spit.

    And, from my view, raising presumptuous questions about his viability for the position and why one would be so suspicious that the Trustees have not done their homework surely raises questions of paranoia. I just don’t get it.

    Grace. With that, I am…

    Peter

  48. Marty Duren says:

    Well, I know why Baggett will support Hammond. Two exact variants of “Jeff.”

    For all-
    Travis is celebrating today with his daughter on the occasion of her birthday and will be away from the internet all day. (Good for him!)

    He does have a call in to Dr. Hammond so that he can hear some answers to his personal concerns. Thanks.

  49. Ben B says:

    Um, with all of this talk on expository preaching I am surprised that there has been no defnition offered. We may all agree if we use the same definition.

    There are more definitions of expository preaching than Baskin Robins has flavors of ice cream

  50. Roger Simpson says:

    I guess with “expository” preaching there is some sort of “exposition” going on. Maybe there is a fine line between “exposing” Biblical text and “exposing” stories about God.

    Using Jesus’ “sermons” — maybe we should not call them “sermons” — that we see recorded in the New Testament as the basis for an analysis, I would say that both methods are used. Some times, Jesus, will say “it is written . . .” and then refer to specific OT texts. Other times we see “story telling” or “parables”.

    Roger Simpson
    Oklahoma City OK

  51. cb scott says:

    Ben B,

    Well said. You must have spent some time studying preaching. There are many ways to preach an expository sermon.

    It is sad that anyone would think expository preaching is limited to “preaching through Books” of the Bible.

    How may flavors does Baskin Robins have anyway?:-)

    cb

  52. Roger Simpson says:

    Here in the Heartland we have a real deficit.

    Namely, to my knowledge there is only one Baskin Robbins Ice Cream place in the whole greater OKC area and it just went broke. It was on Claussen at about 30th St.

    Baskin Robbins always advertises that it has “31 Flavors” but if you went into the store and counted them they, in fact, have more like 50 flavors at any given time.

    Roger Simpson

  53. Robert I Masters says:

    Concerning expository preaching,
    “I charge my readers to remember this. Stand fast on old principles. Do not forsake the old paths. Let nothing tempt you to believe that multiplication of forms and ceremonies, constant reading of liturgical services, or frequent communions, will ever do so much good to souls as the powerful, fiery, fervent preaching of God’s Word. Daily services without sermons may gratify and edify a few handfuls of believers, but they will never reach, draw, attract, or arrest the great mass of mankind. If men want to do good to the multitude, if they want to reach their hearts and consciences, they must walk in the steps of Wycliffe, Latimer, Luther, Chrysostom, and St. Paul. They must attack them through their ears; they must blow the trumpet of the everlasting Gospel loud and long; they must preach the Word.”

    Ligon Duncan on J.C. Ryle
    http://www.reformation21.org/Reformation_21_Blog/Reformation_21_Blog/58/vobId__5478/
    SolaDeoGloria
    Robert I Masters

  54. Colin says:

    Thought definitions of expository preaching are not lacking, I would say the majority of them share more commonality than differences.

    I believe the best analysis of the task is posited by Graeme Goldsworthy in “Preaching the Whole Bible as Christian Scripture,” where he uses Haddon Robinson’s much quoted definition and this one by Greidanus

    Expository preaching is “Bible-centered preaching.” That is, it is handling the text “in such a way that its real and essential meaning as it existed in the mind of the particular Biblical writer and as it exists in light of the overall context of Scripture is made plain and applied to the present day needs of the hearers.”

    to conclude:

    Both Robinson and Greidanus agree that expository preaching is a matter of exposing the meaning of the biblical passage as it stands in its own context and in the wider context of the unity of Scripture. The wider context is essential to the matter of application.

    I would offer also that textual, topical, thematic, exemplary, and narrative sermons are not expository.

  55. Ben B says:

    Marty, Sorry to continue the discussion on expository preaching as that was not the purpose of this post. This will be my last one. It may not be wise for me to say much more. See www.preachingthatmatters.wordpress.com. :-)

    However, it seeems that Colin completely contradicted himself. He cites Goldsworthy, Robinson and Greidanus and their comments on expository preaching. Then Colin proceeds to suggest that generalize textual, topical, exemplary, narrative sermons as not expository. Of course, there are many who suggest that if a sermon is not preached with Aristoliean propositional truth (Let me show you three things that this text tells us…) then it is not expository.

    But what if the textual, topical, thematic and such are Bible-centered (or as Bryan Chapel states, “Christ-centered”) and contextual? You will say, “By definition, they can’t be.” I say, “Do not offer definitions that contradict your last sentence.

    Maybe the generalized last setence Colin uses is why preachers are often scared to preach from the OT because of its narritive nature. They are fearful if they do not offer truth in a propositional way and offer it in a narrative, then they are not truly preaching expositorily. Too often, preachers preach an OT sermon and try to come up with three points (thinking they must use propositional truth to preach an expository sermon) and completey destroy the original intended meaning of the text (see S. Greidanus “Modern Preacher and the Ancient Text” and Stott’s “Between Two Worlds.”)

    Once again, sorry Marty to get off subject. I just do not like Geoff Hammond being falsely labeled. Generalizations, insufficient definitions, and false labels can get us in trouble.

  56. Matt Knight says:

    There has been a lot of discussion about Dr. Hammond’s credentials and philosophies here. I am glad that some have been pointing those with questions straight to the source.

    That there is so much discussion about the new NAMB president is hardly surprising, but I can’t help but think that most, if not all, of these issues and questions must have been discussed by the search committee before they picked him. I personally, as a chaplain candidate endorsed by NAMB, do have great faith in the men and women that studied resumes, interviewed candidates, and prayed through this process over the past several months. While they may or may not know more than we do (though I suspect they might), we ought to recognize that they have surely sought God’s man for the job, and they believe that Geoffrey Hammond is in fact that man.

  57. David Wilson says:

    I’m excited to see what NAMB has done in the selection.

    I’m not touching the “expository” tar-baby. Brer Fox, he law low.

    David
    native Georgian and Joel Chandler Harris fan

  58. Marty Duren says:

    Ben-
    Thank you. Excellent insights.

    Matt-
    While I have been ongoing in my critique of some trustees (IMB, then SWBTS) I do believe that NAMB’s trustees have set themselves apart since the Reccord story first broke. I also believe we will find that the search team avoided political wrangling from all sides in their selection; I know it was their goal.

    David-
    The AJC had a great article on Joel Chandler Harris within the last couple of months. You may be able to find it online. BTW, if you ever see the old Disney hardback of “Song of the South,” it’s worth $$.

  59. Marty Duren says:

    Ben-
    Parables are also narrative in that same sense. A couple of years ago I preached on the prodigal son. Remembering how Jesus first used that (no reading from a text) I had a lady in our body simply tell the story from the stage and then I preached.

    It communicated the truth well and the service was very powerful. Of course, we used “Desperado” (the Eagles) as the special, so maybe that had something to do with it. ;^)

  60. Robert I Masters says:

    Marty,
    Why dont you start a post on expository preaching?
    It seems that would be a relevant topic in the SBC!
    SolaDeoGloria
    Robert I Masters

  61. Marty Duren says:

    Rob-
    Up and coming in the next week or two.

  62. Colin says:

    Ben,

    I really do not understand your point completely, but I will briefly respond to what I think you are saying. I think you are suggesting I would say that textual, topical, thematic, exemplary, and narrative sermons are not Christ-centered. I would not say that, nor would I say they are bad forms of preaching. I would suggest that expository preaching, by anyone’s definition deduced to it’s most basic form, is a sermon outlined and guided by the text- the points of the text will be the points of the sermon, and the main idea/subject of the text will be the main idea/subject of the sermon. I agree with Chapell’s assessment of the other forms of preaching, but would also affirm his conclusion that they are not expository! You know what assuming does, Ben?

    It is my opinion that expository sermons should be the regular diet of the congregation, and the other forms should be used for special circumstances or as need arises.

  63. Geoff Baggett says:

    Has anyone stopped to consider the fact that what we know as “expository” preaching (verse-by-verse, three points, multiple sub-points, and a starvation diet of illustrations) is a distinctly linear, western line of thought and view of communication?

    Are there some of us so entrenched in our own culture of church that we can no longer see, not only the value, but the validity of other forms of communicating the truths of Scripture? What about object lessons? What about parables? What about a narrative presentation of the Scriptures? What about oral cultures? What about “storying” to communicate biblical truths? (Check out “Story Journey” by Thomas E. Boomershine.) I fear that the effort to reclaim the practice of expository preaching has “swung the pendulum” too far in its direction, to the short-sighted exclusion of other valuable methods of biblical communication.

    It especially troubles me when some might claim that their way, i.e. “true expository preaching,” is the only valid way to preach the Gospel. I’ve encountered that claim in far too many pastoral conferences and gatherings, and I don’t care for it. It seems a bit legalistic to me.

    My method of preaching is, for the most part, topical expository. But I will sometimes pursue other approaches as creativity allows and the Holy Spirit leads.

    http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com

  64. Tad Thompsn says:

    I know Geoff very well….he will do an awesome job!!!

  65. volfan007 says:

    anything that takes away from the preaching and teaching of God’s Word is not good. anything that is substituted for the preaching and teaching of God’s Word is not good. God chose to use the foolishness of preaching….and the apostles taught the Word of God…and we are commanded to preach and teach the Word in many different places.

    also, i do think that expository preaching is the best way to grow the saints and develop a healthy church.

    david

  66. David Phillips says:

    Would someone PLEASE define expository preaching? Is it merely preaching verse-by-verse through a book? Is it a form, ie 3 points that may be alliterative? Or can you do narrative and be expositional, topical and expositional, dialogical and be expositional, monologue and be expositional?

    If it’s a style or verse-by-verse, you guys got it all wrong. I’m expositional, but we did the $64K pyramid game with the entire church as part of the sermon. I’m expositional, but I do monologues. I’m expositional, and tell stories. I’m expositional and dialogue with our church during the sermon. I’m expositional, but at the same time topical.

    If it’s exposing the text, then that’s all good.

    Why don’t we give it a rest and let the good man answer the question himself.

    Good night, you guys are killing me…

  67. Robert I Masters says:

    Geoff,
    Do we not live in a western culture ?

    I do believe that the name of the agency that Geoff Hammond will head up is called the North American mission board.
    Starvation diet of illustrations….this is the first time I have heard anyone make that point about

    expository preaching.

    I think it would be interesting to do a survey of the number of pastors who actually do expository preaching…..my sense is that it is in the minority but rapidly changing for the good(toward expostory preaching).
    SolaDeoGloria
    Robert I Masters

  68. David Phillips says:

    Robert,

    We don’t live in a truely western culture anymore. Church is one of the few places that holds on to modernity. We live in a world of multi-culturism, fast-paced short lived sitcoms. We live in a world where experience is king and emotion and involvement (hence experience and reality tv shows) rule. It’s changing in front of our noses. If we don’t embrace different styles of communication, then the decline of Christianity in the West will continue.

    Oh that we could start listening to eastern Christians and that they would continue to come here and be missionaries to our country and that we would embrace them as such.

  69. Okie from Muskogee says:

    Expository Preaching

    is delivering a “text-driven” monologue,in Any Form. It’s an amplification of the text itself, which, of course, was narrative, epistolary, etc.

    What ever logical form is chosen, it should help the listener understand, believe in (be convinced psycholgically), and obey/apply the scripture.

    Any communication has to be done in the language of the people, which assumes cultural nuance and itself is a “translation” of the text.

    These few sentences are enough to keep one busy for a lifetime. It’s just that simple, and complex and demanding all at once.

  70. Marty Duren says:

    The idea that opening the scripture and lay it bare can only happen in verse by verse preaching seem to me to border on idolatry or at the least myopia. Throughout history there have been, in all genres, those who have been faithful to the holy writ. To insist on one right way is taking a position that even God doesn’t take.

    If Phillips Brooks was right and “Preaching is truth communicated through personality” then preaching will be as varied as the personalities themselves. Two of the most well known topical preachers, R. G. Lee and Charles Stanley, wouldn’t pass muster with some today.

  71. Tad Thompsn says:

    Preaching can be both topical and expository. Tha classical definition of expository is not verse by verse teaching, but that the main points of any given sermon come from the text…exegesis is being done rather than iesegesis (sp).

    One can be very topical and still be expository…the key is not attaching Scripture to ones ideas…ones ideas ought to be attached to Scripture.

  72. Geoff Baggett says:

    Robert,
    Yes, ours remains a western culture, in many ways. But, as David stated so well, our culture is rapidly changing. We have raised a generation of young people who cannot sit still and process a mere verbal message and get anything out of it. Our next generation is much more of an “oral” and “visual” culture. The “story” is so very important. This is not a “western” trend.

    My own 8th grader does her homework, listens to Barlow Girl, IM’s her friends, and monitors her MySpace … all at the same time. Good communication requires that we touch all ofthe senses and engage the heart as well as the mind.

    Marty,
    Thank you, thank you. Idolatrous and myopic, indeed. My point exactly. But I cannot even begin to recount the number of times that I have encountered the mindset that a verse-by-verse, book-by-book exposition of Scripture is the ONLY way to biblically preach the Bible. I grow weary of this legalistic, dogmatic claim.

    I encountered this mindset from an adjunct seminary professor who proclaimed (my “starvation diet of illustrations” point, Bro. Masters) that he “preached the verses and used the Bible itself for his illustrations.” Furtnermore, he told us that he “went for weeks without using any illustration from outside the Bible, and didn’t think a thing about it.” I’ll never forget those words. I promptly dropped the class.

    Okie, there are plenty who would argue fanatically with your definition.

    Preaching is, indeed, as diverse as God’s preachers.

    I imagine there are plenty who would have “stroked out” this morning to walk into my church and see basketball goals, scoreboard, coolers, and benches … all to environmentally reinforce our basketball-themed messge series. But my people were engaged, the Bible was preached, and lives were changed. Expository preaching? Definitely yes. As often as possible. But the “only” way? Definitely not.

    http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com

  73. volfan007 says:

    geoff,

    i preach verse by verse thru books of the bible. right now, we are working on the gospel of john. i agree with you about illustrations being good. i try to use as many illustrations as i can. i believe Jesus used illustrations often, didnt he?
    i just wanted you to know that expository preaching is better if someone uses illustrations and applies the teaching, rather than just making the sermon a dry lecture.

    david

  74. Robert I Masters says:

    Mr Phillips,
    If we …..”dont embrace different styles of worship then christianity will continue to decline in the west”. Sounds like you all are trying to narrow the perimenters of cooperation to me!
    I think our ecclessiology determines alot here. What is the purpose of the gaithered church?
    I agree with John Piper….missions is not ultimate,
    worship is(ultimate).

    Marty,
    Please explain to me how you believe expository preaching is or has become an idol in Southern Baptist context. Examples would be helpful!
    Is this one?….http://www.9marks.org/CC_Content_Page/0,,PTID314526%7CCHID616736%7CCIID,00.html
    or this person?

    ….http://www.albertmohler.com/commentary_read.php?cdate=2005-08-10

    Tad,
    You might want to edit the wiki on this topic. They seem to say it is NOT topical…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expository_preaching
    Iam still curious as to your answer as to what Geoff Hammond believes regarding using expository preaching to plant new churches.
    I assume he said what Travis Hilton claims….since you said you know him well and you did not deny that statement and seemed to slightly defend that position.
    Feel to correct me if Iam wrong!

    SolaDeoGloria
    Robert I Masters

  75. Bobby Gilstrap says:

    As this begins the Week of Prayer for North American Missions for many SBC churches, I am thankful for the coming recommendation of a new leader for NAMB. For all its strengths and inadequacies, NAMB needs competent, visionary, missional leadership. Hammond appears to meet those criteria.

    I would encourage us to focus this week on prayer support for all of those involved in this process and the tremendous impact that it will have on the future of NAMB and our mission work in North America. -bg

  76. Milton says:

    The discussion regarding the qualifications of Geoff Hammond as President-elect of NAMB has been very interesting, and reflects some of the difficulties that missionaries (Home and International) face when relating to pastors of local churches in the US.
    The problems arise when there is an attempt to see evangelism and the starting of churches through the eyes of the churches in the US. On some fields, this approach was tried, unsuccessfully I might add. Church buildings with their beautiful white columns were erected adjacent to the open markets–further evidence to the national non-believers that Christianity is a Western religion, and not applicable to their lives.
    It would seem to me that expository preaching would work wonderfully in a setting where the hearers were familiar with the Bible, and could grasp the teaching or “exposition” of a particular passage or book because they had either already read it several times, or they had a Bible to refer to during the sermon and could go home and revisit it as often as necessary. However, in most mission situations, dealing with folks who have never had a Bible, never once visited a “church service” and whose concept of God is more varied than Baskin-Robbins’ varieties of ice cream, expository preaching may not be the best way to start out. Using logic with people groups who don’t even have the word in their language probably would not work, at least to begin with.
    Speaking from personal experience, the “storying” approach is an excellent way to do “expository” sharing by relating the truth of the scriptures in a style and in words that the hearers can understand and process. Communicating in the language and style of speaking with the target group is essential in gaining a hearing with the non-Christian world. It appears that Geoff Hammonds understands this, and in my opinion will make an excellent leader for NAMB. Our country is becoming so diverse culturally, we must pay attention to how people “hear” the gospel. I will commit to pray for him and for those he will lead.

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